Comments on: Review: Terminator: Salvation http://www.cinemaverdict.com/2009/05/22/review-terminator-salvation/ Spreading film criticism all over the web Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:04:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: snickers http://www.cinemaverdict.com/2009/05/22/review-terminator-salvation/comment-page-1/#comment-1013 snickers Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:42:56 +0000 http://www.cinemaverdict.com/?p=822#comment-1013 @introspective - Sorry, but you must be retarded. Salvation was complete and utter crap. Honestly, if you've ever watched the original Terminator and/or the (slightly flawed) sequel T2, or any other decently-written film in the past 50 years or so you'd know T4 was a bad film. Visual effects DO NOT make a good movie. @introspective – Sorry, but you must be retarded. Salvation was complete and utter crap. Honestly, if you’ve ever watched the original Terminator and/or the (slightly flawed) sequel T2, or any other decently-written film in the past 50 years or so you’d know T4 was a bad film. Visual effects DO NOT make a good movie.

]]> By: Introspective http://www.cinemaverdict.com/2009/05/22/review-terminator-salvation/comment-page-1/#comment-1012 Introspective Sun, 02 Aug 2009 11:56:08 +0000 http://www.cinemaverdict.com/?p=822#comment-1012 Terminator Salvation is a very good movie. It is obvious that even without Schwarzenegger the movie can be good. The action scenes are top-notch. Terminator Salvation is a very good movie. It is obvious that even without Schwarzenegger the movie can be good. The action scenes are top-notch.

]]> By: Daniel Kelly http://www.cinemaverdict.com/2009/05/22/review-terminator-salvation/comment-page-1/#comment-963 Daniel Kelly Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:33:37 +0000 http://www.cinemaverdict.com/?p=822#comment-963 I actually liked it. Not the best movie of the summer are anything of that ilk, but a robust and entertaining blockbuster. I must be getting stupid in my old age. I actually liked it. Not the best movie of the summer are anything of that ilk, but a robust and entertaining blockbuster. I must be getting stupid in my old age.

]]> By: deltavoyage http://www.cinemaverdict.com/2009/05/22/review-terminator-salvation/comment-page-1/#comment-932 deltavoyage Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:39:33 +0000 http://www.cinemaverdict.com/?p=822#comment-932 Seeing Terminator Salvation really made me miss The Sarah Connor Chronicles. Sarah Connor had a great story with brilliantly conceived and flawed characters. Salvation was just blowing up a bunch of stuff. Seeing Terminator Salvation really made me miss The Sarah Connor Chronicles. Sarah Connor had a great story with brilliantly conceived and flawed characters. Salvation was just blowing up a bunch of stuff.

]]> By: snickers http://www.cinemaverdict.com/2009/05/22/review-terminator-salvation/comment-page-1/#comment-893 snickers Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:57:28 +0000 http://www.cinemaverdict.com/?p=822#comment-893 @13 - Wrong! @13 – Wrong!

]]> By: john connor http://www.cinemaverdict.com/2009/05/22/review-terminator-salvation/comment-page-1/#comment-891 john connor Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:13:32 +0000 http://www.cinemaverdict.com/?p=822#comment-891 u idiots this movie was sick! u idiots this movie was sick!

]]> By: Mike http://www.cinemaverdict.com/2009/05/22/review-terminator-salvation/comment-page-1/#comment-883 Mike Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:45:10 +0000 http://www.cinemaverdict.com/?p=822#comment-883 I think if you go expecting to see Terminator 1 and 2 you will be dissapointed and to be honest you should be because you would be niave to think that this film is in anyway a 'carry on' from those previous movies i.e. its different directors, actors and an evolved plot line based on alterations to time (so basically anything can happen!). I disagree with the review, its too harsh. I felt the introduction of the Marcus character was important and he was convincing as a messed up lost and angry person who's anger stems from what he did before his execution and not what has happened since his execution. I like the fact they dont shed too much light on what he did, you are left to wonder what kind of things he has done for all his hurt and anger to be focused away from the apocolypse he has woken up to because in his character, his world appeares to have been destroyed anyway regardless of Judgement Day. His involvement mixed the story and plot up a bit which was needed because the Terminator plot was definately getting same old and T3 was just a dire add on to T2. The Kyle Reese character was brilliant in my view, a very believable younger adaptation to the charactor in T1, to me the likeness and characteristics and his way of being was a believable immature version of K Reese in T1. The down side was Bale, his character did not work and he became a complete by stander to Reese and Marcus in the film. There could and proberly should have been more role play for his character and involvment with the Marcus character. I dont think they should have seperated in the film once they had found eachother. That way they could have evolved their character differences more opening up the idea of character conflicts and tensions in what their own objectives were. The adaptation of Skynet was really poor too, it was too squeeky clean (plasma tv pent house with silly CGI Arnie's walking around in its big play boy mansion house)....this really wasnt required. The fear factor wasnt involved with skynet as it proberly should have been. The idea of Connor and the resistance being quite willing to stroll into the Skynet facility with hundreds of terminators and blow it up was totally lost on me. It didnt seem strategic or well placed in the story line. The film worked ok, the desert scenes were good and the characters of Marcus and Reese were the highlights. But like T3, it seems no one can get to grips with John Connor's character, in both T3 and T4 the character is too controlled and boring and yet here is someone who is burdened with knowing the fate of everything, the guilt of knowing perhaps he could have stopped it, the guilt of knowing he will send his dad to his death, the fear of not been able to lead as he is expected to, the panick of never knowing what Skynets limits or next move is going to be.....it goes on and on and in T4 Bale doesnt come close to doing the characters potential justice. In my view the John Connor character needs to be somewhat 'mad in the head' to reflect what he has been through in the story, but it seems to me that this just doesnt apply to the ideas of the T3 and T4 writers? I think if you go expecting to see Terminator 1 and 2 you will be dissapointed and to be honest you should be because you would be niave to think that this film is in anyway a ‘carry on’ from those previous movies i.e. its different directors, actors and an evolved plot line based on alterations to time (so basically anything can happen!). I disagree with the review, its too harsh. I felt the introduction of the Marcus character was important and he was convincing as a messed up lost and angry person who’s anger stems from what he did before his execution and not what has happened since his execution. I like the fact they dont shed too much light on what he did, you are left to wonder what kind of things he has done for all his hurt and anger to be focused away from the apocolypse he has woken up to because in his character, his world appeares to have been destroyed anyway regardless of Judgement Day. His involvement mixed the story and plot up a bit which was needed because the Terminator plot was definately getting same old and T3 was just a dire add on to T2. The Kyle Reese character was brilliant in my view, a very believable younger adaptation to the charactor in T1, to me the likeness and characteristics and his way of being was a believable immature version of K Reese in T1. The down side was Bale, his character did not work and he became a complete by stander to Reese and Marcus in the film. There could and proberly should have been more role play for his character and involvment with the Marcus character. I dont think they should have seperated in the film once they had found eachother. That way they could have evolved their character differences more opening up the idea of character conflicts and tensions in what their own objectives were. The adaptation of Skynet was really poor too, it was too squeeky clean (plasma tv pent house with silly CGI Arnie’s walking around in its big play boy mansion house)….this really wasnt required. The fear factor wasnt involved with skynet as it proberly should have been. The idea of Connor and the resistance being quite willing to stroll into the Skynet facility with hundreds of terminators and blow it up was totally lost on me. It didnt seem strategic or well placed in the story line.
The film worked ok, the desert scenes were good and the characters of Marcus and Reese were the highlights. But like T3, it seems no one can get to grips with John Connor’s character, in both T3 and T4 the character is too controlled and boring and yet here is someone who is burdened with knowing the fate of everything, the guilt of knowing perhaps he could have stopped it, the guilt of knowing he will send his dad to his death, the fear of not been able to lead as he is expected to, the panick of never knowing what Skynets limits or next move is going to be…..it goes on and on and in T4 Bale doesnt come close to doing the characters potential justice. In my view the John Connor character needs to be somewhat ‘mad in the head’ to reflect what he has been through in the story, but it seems to me that this just doesnt apply to the ideas of the T3 and T4 writers?

]]> By: Mark http://www.cinemaverdict.com/2009/05/22/review-terminator-salvation/comment-page-1/#comment-881 Mark Mon, 08 Jun 2009 08:14:51 +0000 http://www.cinemaverdict.com/?p=822#comment-881 @Robert Gartner - All the evidence points to the contrary and says that you are wrong, despite being entitled to your own opinion. And it's "Connor", as any fan would know. @Robert Gartner – All the evidence points to the contrary and says that you are wrong, despite being entitled to your own opinion.

And it’s “Connor”, as any fan would know.

]]> By: Robert Gartner http://www.cinemaverdict.com/2009/05/22/review-terminator-salvation/comment-page-1/#comment-880 Robert Gartner Mon, 08 Jun 2009 00:20:45 +0000 http://www.cinemaverdict.com/?p=822#comment-880 What I find in all of these postings are, in my opinion, the soundings of many people who wish they were actors and producers/directors, and to that extent envious. As to the plot of the movie, its a futuristic war, as to what anybody expects about it, the future war had many past changes by the past being revisted three times prior to SALVATION and anyone who expects certain continuities in the 4th installment, these are not continuous as each time someone/something returned to the past, the future war/timelines were altered as a result, so anybody using the first three movies as a basis for continuity in SALVATION will be disappointed, the only continiuty can be is the caractures involved, the dates and types of machines had to be different due to all the past time alterations, so as others have criticized that Kyle Reese said the t800's come much later than shown in SALVATION, noting that the past left pieces of destroyed t800's as they went, the future story line must be different, it is to be expected. As for people critisizing poor acting and lousy script writting, McG and all the producers/ writers and directors did an excellent job piecing together this future war by researching all paradoxes created in the 3 prior movies. Arnold is OLD now, and his current job hasn't afforded him the timeto keep the muscular build we knew him to have, so there is no way to script him in, so of course the CG image is about all we can expect to connect him to the past installments. McG took the ball and ran with it. The movie makes sense, I feel the connection with John Conner, I felt the connection to Marcus Wright, who was deactivated prior to judgement day, and I see the connection from CYBNERDINE at Marcus Wrights execution, that its secret military connection/ was destroyed when Sarah Conner, John Conner, Miles Dyson, and The Terminator decimated Cyberdine in T2, as their interests went from defense to medical, thus creating Marcus Wright prior to T3 or Savation, and I get how Skynet would know about it in Salvation. Bottom line is, if you expected more of the same as in previous installments, well Salvation isn't the movie for you, but if you were expecting and awaiting the future war and knew that changes would be evident due to all of the future visits to the past, you realize that this is an excellent prodution, and you all as in I anxiously await the 5th installment, this war is not over, and expecting it to be wrapped up in Salvation would not only be a mediocre try at best, you critrics would realize the best is still yet to come. Lastly, I don't know where anybody has heard that TERMINATOR, THE SARAH CONNER CHRONICALS has been cancelled, as I watched it both seasons, and the last episode was the end of the season finale, as addressed, not end of the series finale, anybody who has a link to attach to that statement feel free to email it to me, or post a link on this forum. As for my rating, this movie is a 4 out 4 star production for me and well worth the wait! What I find in all of these postings are, in my opinion, the soundings of many people who wish they were actors and producers/directors, and to that extent envious. As to the plot of the movie, its a futuristic war, as to what anybody expects about it, the future war had many past changes by the past being revisted three times prior to SALVATION and anyone who expects certain continuities in the 4th installment, these are not continuous as each time someone/something returned to the past, the future war/timelines were altered as a result, so anybody using the first three movies as a basis for continuity in SALVATION will be disappointed, the only continiuty can be is the caractures involved, the dates and types of machines had to be different due to all the past time alterations, so as others have criticized that Kyle Reese said the t800’s come much later than shown in SALVATION, noting that the past left pieces of destroyed t800’s as they went, the future story line must be different, it is to be expected. As for people critisizing poor acting and lousy script writting, McG and all the producers/ writers and directors did an excellent job piecing together this future war by researching all paradoxes created in the 3 prior movies. Arnold is OLD now, and his current job hasn’t afforded him the timeto keep the muscular build we knew him to have, so there is no way to script him in, so of course the CG image is about all we can expect to connect him to the past installments. McG took the ball and ran with it. The movie makes sense, I feel the connection with John Conner, I felt the connection to Marcus Wright, who was deactivated prior to judgement day, and I see the connection from CYBNERDINE at Marcus Wrights execution, that its secret military connection/ was destroyed when Sarah Conner, John Conner, Miles Dyson, and The Terminator decimated Cyberdine in T2, as their interests went from defense to medical, thus creating Marcus Wright prior to T3 or Savation, and I get how Skynet would know about it in Salvation. Bottom line is, if you expected more of the same as in previous installments, well Salvation isn’t the movie for you, but if you were expecting and awaiting the future war and knew that changes would be evident due to all of the future visits to the past, you realize that this is an excellent prodution, and you all as in I anxiously await the 5th installment, this war is not over, and expecting it to be wrapped up in Salvation would not only be a mediocre try at best, you critrics would realize the best is still yet to come. Lastly, I don’t know where anybody has heard that TERMINATOR, THE SARAH CONNER CHRONICALS has been cancelled, as I watched it both seasons, and the last episode was the end of the season finale, as addressed, not end of the series finale, anybody who has a link to attach to that statement feel free to email it to me, or post a link on this forum. As for my rating, this movie is a 4 out 4 star production for me and well worth the wait!

]]> By: Mark http://www.cinemaverdict.com/2009/05/22/review-terminator-salvation/comment-page-1/#comment-859 Mark Sun, 31 May 2009 12:48:44 +0000 http://www.cinemaverdict.com/?p=822#comment-859 Good review. I also like the closing paragraph's sentiment; sums up this movie exactly. Good review. I also like the closing paragraph’s sentiment; sums up this movie exactly.

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